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We're still not sure what type of president-elect or president donald trump will be. anderson? >> and president obama also spoke to some of the challenges of the oval office. >> reporter: he did, indeed. he said that, look, campaigning is one thing, governing is a totally different thing. and he speaks from personal experience there. he, too, came into the office without much executive experience. donald trump has executive experience, but of a different kind, of course. but he said, look, reality often has a way of changing once you're inside the oval office. so i think his overall takeaway w...

Transition to the white house replacing chris christie. let's bring in joe watkins. thanks for being with us. let's talk about the transition team and what is the significance of pence being given this expanded role? >> i think it absolutely is. mike pence was in leadership when he served as a congressman from indiana. he has executive experience. he is very close to speaker ryan and he knows how to take policy. i suspect that the cabinet and the senior people that get appointed will be people that work well with mike pence to donald trump's credit i think that's a very smart move. >> and sara...

Something different than what we have. they're sick and tired of politics as usual, they're tired of the corruptions and scandals and they's all they've seen and they know they'll get that if they vote for hillary clinton. that's one of the reasons donald trump has done so well but particularly over the last ten days we have seen the scandal and corruption and conflict -- >> what about experience? experience is very important. i want a candidate who -- a president who walks in there and doesn't have to have a guide to find the oval office. >> well, look, i think experience does matter but it's...

Obama when he ascended. she has executive experience. she is well positioned to get something done. "the post" also concludes, this year, eloquence and charm may matter less than policy chops and persistence. you know, like most people who live in this city, i'm fascinated we're getting something done. it's often more important than ideology. and you point out that hillary clinton doesn't have pizazz, she does have the wonk's ability to cut and have the chops to decide where the opportunity -- like a lawyer. i can see where to cut. explain why you have confidence that she can get immigration r...

Would a second-place finish in your heart of hearts, be okay with you in new hampshire? is that good enough to move on and say face donald trump in south carolina? >> willie, since in september you have the "new york times" calling for me to drop out of the race. you had me in ninth place. yeah, i think that would be just fine. and the fact is that we're going to work real hard here in new hampshire over the next four weeks and in iowa the next three. we'll be heading to iowa right after the debate. listen, what we need to do is to show that we are the best governor in this race. that's what w...