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since the second world war. hello and welcome to bbc news. the possibility of rishi sunak and borisjohnson meeting each other today — is being talked about this evening — as the race to become the new conservative leader and prime minister gathers pace. the bbc understands they were due to meet face to face at 3:30 this afternoon but that was delayed — although my colleague laura kuenssberg says the meeting may still go ahead later. mr sunak is the first leadership contender to secure the public support of 100 tory mps — that's the number needed to enter the race. but he's ye...

Opposing something like this. it's clearly for political reasons. it's just -- it's the kind of thing -- and i've said this before, but it needs to be repeated over and over -- that pre-trump would be unimaginable. and we can't -- we have to kind of stay tethered to that time and remember that, like, just how off the rails things really are and how off the rails the republican party really has gone that, yes, democrats and republicans have always, you know, sort of been at odds. but there were times and there were things that brought them together. and what happened on january 6th would have b...

It's clearly for political reasons. it's just -- it's the kind of thing drn and i have said this before, but it needs to be repeated over and over, that pre-trump would be unimaginable. and we have to kind of stay tethered to that time and remember that, like, just how off the rails things really are and how off the rails the republican party really has gone, that, yes, democrats and republicans have always, you know, sort of been at odds, but there were times and things that brought them together. what happened on january 6th would have been the type of thing in the past that bring people tog...

Prayer. what did have you 20 minutes in the? i wouldn't know what that would be like. what was going through your mind at the time? what goes into something like that? >> prayy your heart. i didn't have time to prepare. i didn't have time to write anything out. i just said i will go out there and pray from my heart. and that's what i did. ainsley: you speak from your heart right now and tell us a message for this country because we are so divided and we do need unity. >> we are divided in many ways. it's true. there are other ways in which we are united. one of those is in our contempt for thi...

Do you take his request to you to heart? >> well, governor kasich is certainly right on the last point. that we do need unity. and maybe i made a mistake by even naming him. i'm looking for a candidate like john kasich, i thought i put that in the op-ed. someone with executive experience. >> but who will you vote for? >> i'm in a deliberations phase. >> i see. so you were thinking about john kasich but he says no, thank you. now you're going to vote for somebody, doesn't have to be somebody who ran for president. >> another republican. again, i'm looking for someone with broad-based legislativ...