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Embracing him either. this hour we'll add three different democratic senators to denounce bannon being on board here. how is it not dangerous to have a man like bannon in the white house advising the most powerful man on the planet with his reputation? >> let me say this. i agree with jerry nadler that the president has a right to pick who he wants. and the democrats have a right to criticize whoever he picks. this seems like this is a unifying factor for the democrats at a time when they do need unity. aside from all the criticism, this is a man who was a u.s. navy officer, a graduate with an...

And where you talk about the enormous power to suppress a bill. what is your thought now that kevin mccarthy, the majority leader now says he is not running? >> well, i thought it was an incredibly magnanimous thing for him to move aside for the sake of the party, you don't see much of that so kudos to him. i hope it opens the process up and i hope those who have an opportunity will really make a pitch that everybody will be listening to. because we do need unity and enthusiasm on behalf of the entire party. and i think it's possible to get that if it's done the right way. >> well, it certainl...

Of exceptionalism, we're not the last word. most americans do think we're exceptional. we've operated traditionally, historically and exceptionally from a position of strength. i think the concern is we're compromising our role and in that profile, particularly in the eyes of weaker nations who have always relied on us to be the big dog and to be someone they can count on. >> we have a situation with foes, as i said, that we're not being listened to. secretary clinton said we tried our best and now we have need unity to begin to act. >> obama has a great presence, is pretty good at an engageme...

Last word. most americans do think we're exceptional. we've operated traditionally, historically and exceptionally from a position of strength. i think the concern is we're compromising our role and in that profile, particularly in the eyes of weaker nations who have always relied on us to be the big dog and to be someone they can count on. >> we have a situation with foes, as i said, that we're not being listened to. secretary clinton said we tried our best and now we have need unity to begin to act. >> obama has a great presence, is pretty good at an engagement. as kathleen said, that's a pr...

America's power and, most importantly, america's influence? >> i'm not quite as optimistic as the folks on that side of the table. i think engagement is very nice. it's lovely to sit down at the table and chat. but engagement is a tool. it's not a foreign policy. and i think that is where the concern comes in among conservatives and particularly when you talk about this issue of exceptionalism, we're not the last word. most americans do think we're exceptional. we've operated traditionally, historically and exceptionally from a position of strength. i think the concern is we're compromising ou...