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I would say so. >> and you didn't get the feeling that the president was going to take this on in a very big way yesterday? >> i wouldn't say that. i mean, i'm an optimist. most people when you're up -- becoming a governor, you have to be somewhat of an optimist. and i'm hopeful. he said very clearly he was going to get rid of bump stocks. he could do that without having to go through congress and just do it through his executive powers. my goodness, i hope he does that immediately. that makes a lot of sense. there's no reason -- bump stocks i would say are already illegal, right? we banned au...

Obstruction of justice around trump tweeting he fired michael flynn because he lied to the fbi. and then later we know he wanted to fire james comey. yesterday, john dowd said trump can't have obstruction of justice. then it sounded last night like ty cobb distanced himself from this. >> it certainly seemed like they were taking a much broader interpretation of executive powers by saying the president can't obstruction justice. before that, the line had been the president hadn't obstructed justice, he didn't tell flynn or comey to drop the flynn case. he didn't fire comey because of the russia...

Is just not going to keep america safe or keep the global community safer. in fact, it makes us more at risk. >> do you think his tweets where he is admitting he doesn't like what had been called the new and improved version. he doesn't like it because it is a lesser version than the original one. he is calling it a travel ban. some of his press communications department said it is not a travel ban, but better vetting. what do you think this does when the case goes before the supreme court? >> it clearly shows his intent. of course, the president doesn't believe in the other branches of govern...

Agenda is to try to improve by adjusting trade agreements or withdrawing from some like the tra transpacific partnership. there has been force of executive powers, those executive orders and so forth and certainly from outlining where he wants to go. that's where you'd put tax reform and tax cuts, which they unveiled just some bullet points this week, months if not more than a year from any real legislation on that. it will be debated for a long time to come and he'll tap into the energy of his supporters by going to "hardball" tonight. expect him to talk about his victory, about this first 10...

Spree of going through his taxes and just make life miserable for him, well, okay, every candidate haz has kind of had to live through that and most of them have survived it, so why would he not be able to survive it? >> and that's really where advisers to the president have increasingly gone in defending the decision. this audit thing, clearly a political fig leaf for a long time. his 2016 taxes are not under audit, if they haven't been filed yet, right? so, that's not an excuse not to release them. so, i think what you hear in that town hall footage and increasingly from members of congress ...