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Editorial boards or congress or the president. i'm going to do what i think is right. >> you have a very nice family behind you. >> thank you. >> i don't want to give your grandson any career advice. he has received quite a bit already. he ought to consider at least for some balance being a public defender. one of the things that you alluded to as a major issue that concerns immigration and i'm glad you said it, our government is shutdown now over the issues of border security and immigration. the attorney general plays an essential role as they look to the department for homeland security for...

By anybody. whether it be editorial boards or congress or the president. i'm going to do what i think is right. >> you have a very nice family behind you. >> thank you. >> i'm glad you introduced us. i don't want to give your grandson any career advice. he's received quite a bit this morning already. he ought to consider at least for some balance being a public defender. one of the things you alluded to as a major issue of concern is immigration. our government is shut down over the issues of border security and immigration. and the attorney general plays a central role, which many people don'...

The relationship with the white house will be at issue. >> this is on a different level for democrats completely. for many, many months, they have been waiting for a voice with this president. they have been waiting to be able to hold him accountable on many levels. and now they have it. they don't want to squander it, but it is a different dynamic. and i'm not sure president trump completely understands that. as the president faces the prospect of abandoning large scale plans for a physical border wall to end the shutdown, aides and allies have tried to down play trump's signature campaign is...

Whole. >> heather: david, what about that? do the democrats, nancy pelosi specifically, do they know that the president and the republicans are not going to accept what they intend to put forth on thursday and so they're doing it just to, you know, put the ball in the president's court and make him look like the bad guy? >> welcome to the year of divided government. it's wrong to say the democrats are the only ones playing partisan politics here. come on. what is the white house and the president doing? this is an issue that the president himself said he would own. soon to be again speaker pel...

President going to accept as pushback? if the president's instinct, according to the reporting out there, and we heard this from john kelly's exit interview, we could glean is from general mattis' resignation letter, that they were two people who pulled the president back from some of his worst instincts. wanting to get troops out of korea, wanting to stop war exercises up, there wanting to pull out of syria, pull out of afghanistan, pull out of nato, those sorts of things. is there somebody the president is going to listen to, or do you think or worry that we're entering an era where whatever...