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The way to new orleans. there is very little exit points going straight across the bottom of the country. in houston, there will prepared. i was there, i watched literally houses come down on fire in '94. the potential is there, i have a lot of friends still there. they are doing their best in the broadcast world to make people aware of what's going on. >> harris: i want to talk about what's going on behind the president. it's different than perhaps anything we've seen before and that is john kelly as chief of staff, former secretary of the department of homeland security under which fema was,...

Immigration policies to realize that a big beautiful wall may not be the answer. or do we need a wall plus the things that senator mccain offered. it is not the end all be all. it is important and it is a deterrent factor. you do also need to have biometric entry exit points. but the rhetoric of this administration has the flow but the second he is not office it is can open up again. your group and others of like minds have managed to turn this into a debate what was a key component of the president's victory. how do you continue that. or is it something you're willing to compromise on. the re...

Apparently, apparently a lone suicide bomber at what could be construed as one of the exit points of an ariana grande concert tonight in manchester. a lot of her teenaged fans, we're judging by the imagery coming out. a lot of girls joined by their moms. some families just terrific event until the last note, until the lights went up in the arena. that's when people first became aware of the concussion of the blast. jonathan dienst is a long-time investigative reporter with our nbc station here in new york. someone we often call upon during these hours after an event. jonathan, what can you add...

>> you heard those women say they saw bodies lying all around. on the phone right now is da dal babou, former chief superintendent of the metropolitan police in london, he was in charge of security for that area. what can you tell us based on what you're hearing? >> good afternoon. i think it's very, very early at this stage to know exactly what's happened. i think the assumption is, given where the attacks happened, that this is a terrorist incident. at the moment i think the information is very unclear. i think what we've been cold is an officer has been stabbed, that officers have shot the ...

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