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Say in the outyears, these families, more of these families will see a tax increase. that seems primarily due to the subsets. can you talk about why you decided to do the sunsets? why so many things on the corporate and business side are permanent. why not make some of those things sunset to keep the middle class stuff permanent? >> it's a good question. you see both. you see the expansion provision, sunset. so you see business provisions sunset and some individuals sunset. but our bill on the primary visions and the child tax credit, those things are made permanent. why? because certainty is ...

Going to cover medicaid which is, as we all know, for the most vulnerable populations. so isn't it true, that? states like -- in states like washington they will have new unexpected costs associated with a dramatic influx into medicaid? sebelius: congresswoman, the medicaid expansion provision of the affordable care act is -- >> are states going to face new costs? sebelius: federal government pays 100% of cost for first three years and gradually -- >> people already, existing people. we know two out of three doctors don't accept new medicaid patients. we know current provider rates will drop a...