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If they think that's a government facility that some crazy thing is going on in there, that would not be unusual to have a group like that, of course they're very militant. >> let me bring in someone you're familiar with. clint van zandt. i know you've been listening in on this conversation. where would you begin? >> well, you know, obviously jim's got years of experience investigating and you've got years of experience reporting so let me try to fill in the middle. you know, when we look at some of forensics evidence, anywhere from what pete williams had suggested earlier, that they'll be loo...

The new south wales police, who as i understand it, will begin providing operational updates shortly. >> we heard from the police about a little over an hour ago, it's been. so we haven't heard from them since the two other hostages have been released. so maybe we will at this point. >> that was about an hour and a half ago. they're very reluctant to give updates in australia. >> we've learned that, it's very different. >> that was my experience reporting in australia. it was always difficult finding out what was going on. they don't like giving out details. they feel it jeopardizes their oper...

Event. >> another theme i'm hearing is really, really young, unseasoned reporters who are -- maybe don't have much experience reporting on anything, whether it's -- used to be you had to track where you worked at the local paper, work up to a metro paper and eventually the big thing was, i'm covering the presidential campaign. now ryan's talking about someone coming in very young, unseasoned, covers it for a day, has a twitter feed and takes off like that. how big of a problem is that? is that a problem or are we overstating reporters are too young covering these things, too unseasoned? >> no....

Especially american citizens who are frankly, mika, suspicious of what they're hearing. >> you know, this is really one layer how we're covering the story and one worth talking about, what chris is bringing up, catty kay, given your experience reporting in japan over three years, there are cultural difference, history, doesn't have to be antagonist stick. you have americans working with the embassy trying to figure out what to do and the latest reports trying to keep it from boiling over and the water used in one of the plants is actually boiling, what do you do? >> chris, i was wondering whet...