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Interesting to hear mr. ross' thoughts on trade, and as your clip showed, to make sure we have jobs here in the united states and that was a focus for mr. trump in the election, and it is one that is going to be a focus for mr. ross moving forward. >> to your point, he has gotten the job done, and he's gotten a different job done, and his expertise is around job operation and excellence which often results in slashing jobs, and he has been critical with tpp, which he called horrible and he wants to renegotiate nafta, and this is not something wilber ross has expertise in, and what if we get in...

So i think that's part of the answer there. the other part of the answer is, you remember what happened that week in september of 2012? there were protests and violent incidents at a multitude of american embassy that week in the arab world. so our state department was juggling a very dangerous situation in benghazi, certainly, and also in other posts. so i think it's unfair for the critics to say that secretary clinton had personal responsibility to make all these individual decisions. that's not how a large organization of 50,000 employees works. >> again, that seems to be a separate questio...