The explosive devices at the time that law enforcement got to them. so they could have been rendered safe by explosives teams, the eod teams that went to look for these. and police may have taken those devices for evidentiary value. again, we don't know and we've yet to ascertain the conditions of those explosives. >> when we talk about the training and we talk so much about the training that multiple branches are responding at this point but that law enforcement and other agencies undergo and it changes, right, with every shooting, it changes with every terror incident that we have to deal wi...