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Taking this on. we saw kamala harris did and we saw pete buttigieg. they were saying if this is the truth and if this is accurate, this is essentially treason. this is a betrayal of our democracy. >> number one it is porimportano remember although this is an extortion element in this. you don't need the extortion because you have the crime. we have the smoking gun. trump is essentially confessing every time he talks to the press. i think we are going to learn the exact details, the wall street journal had very precise information about that call eight times that he allegedly asked for help to ...

Potential subject of a story in that manner, i'm going to publish this unless you do that or stop doing that. it's just -- it's criminal is what it is. it's extortion. >> mike, they are appear to be doing something that looked like extension and actually had a specific demand, which is you must clear us of all of your previous charges and make a statement that you investigated and we did nothing wrong. again, i will say again, that is the act of a desperate lawyer and it appears to be the act of desperate company. >> what they did was easier to proceed with the extortion element of this case a...

This point he will not be arrested for extortion. jenna: heather, what do you think? >> i think there's a potential claim here for obstruction of justice. if the police can prove he tried to get that tape to hide it as evidence so that he would not be prosecuted for the drug charge, that's a real charge. and, jenna, that carries a much greater sentence than the drug charge. a first to fence can be as little as six months, obstruction of justice, he could face up to ten years. this is a serious charge against the mayor. jenna: heather, would you pursue it that way? >> i would. i mean, i think t...