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Overreact, which then forces them to show that they're serious, and then you go for a t tit for tat game. you have to deter the north koreans, but you can't play into this game. because they're somewhat irrational. they don't have very good command and control, and there could be some kind of miscalculation. >> does he really think he can get money from china, south korea, the united states by this tough talk? >> wolf, it's a pattern that's happened over the last decades with this regime. they do believe that they can, and they've been able to do this sort of extortion policy in this regard. n...

Bluster. what you don't want to do is overreact to it, which then forces them to show that they're actually serious and you go down a tit for tat game. you've got to provide assurance and deterrence, assurance to the japanese and the south koreans, who are the most concerned, you have to deter the north koreans, but you cast play into this game. because they are somewhat irrational. they don't have very good command and control, one has to assume, and there could be some kind of miscalculation. >> does he really think he can get concessions, kim jong-un, money from china, south korea, the unit...

Has explain -- is playing this just right, which is at some level bluster. you don't want to overreact to it, and then you have a it for at the game. you have to deter the north koreans but you can't play into the game. because they're -- somewhat irrational. they don't have good command and control one has to assume. there could be a miscalculation. >> does he really think he can get concession, kim jong-un, money from china, from south korea, from the united states, by this tough talk? >> it's a pattern that's happened over the last decades with this regime. they do believe they can. they ha...