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The american people didn't like it. i think there's more to this than just the data. i think it gets down to values, too. what are your thoughts? >> chris, i couldn't agree with you more. i believe that 100% and said so before we invaded iraq. and that's why -- that's the starting point for everything going so haywire. i think the war was a world-class disaster for the united states, not to mention for iraq, from day one. in addition to 4,500 americans, men and women that we lost, you know, we took our eye off of afghanistan, which is the reason why we stayed in afghanistan for more than a dec...

Thoughtful way. this war always looked like to me an invasion of another country that never attacked us, using our force, forcing the people to do what we wanted them to do for many years. i considered aggressive action. the american people didn't like it. i think there's more to this than just the data. i think it gets down to values. what are your thoughts? >> chris, i couldn't agree with you more. i believe that 100% and said that before we invided iraq. that's the starting point for everything going so haywire. i think it was a world class disaster for the united states, not to mention ira...

Best accountants take advantage of the special tax treatments and lobby wrists have along with -- lobbyists have along with lawmakers cooked into the books here. >> chris: are businessmen like you and mr. johnson getting off too easy on taxes? >> well, i think you have to divide the tax argument into a little bit more discrete argument. first of all, the top 10% of the taxpayers in the united states pay 70% or near 70% of all federal personal taxes. corporate taxes are only about 9%. the problem is when you talk about personal taxes it takes everyone's eye off of the corporate tax situation. a...

Accountants and take advantage of special tax treatments the lobbyists have along with lawmakers have cooked into the books here. >> mr. smith, is the white house right? are businessmen like and you mr. johnson getting off too easy on taxes? >> well, i think you have to divide the tax argument into a little bit more discreet argument. first of all, the top 10% of the taxpayers in the united states pay 70% or near 70% of all federal personal taxes. corporate taxes are only about 9%. the problem is when you talk about personal taxes, it takes everyone's eye off of the corporate tax situation. fr...

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