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conspiracies by the ex-president and his allies including in the media. in its $1.6 billion defamation case pierces the hermetically sealed bubble that is fox news. the network that drives the conversation and conduct in the republican party and on the right like none other. it shows that hosts on fox news either peddled the big lie that the 2020 election was stolen from trump or gave the platform for people to spread the big lie that the election was stolen from trump for one reason and one reason only, fear, terror really of losing viewers and tumbling stock prices and viewers migrating to more radical outlets. messages and emails obtained by dominion along with testimony from fox news employees and hosts reveals that it was well known and bantered about inside fox news that the vote fraud conspiracies were as rupert murdoch put it terrible stuff, damaging everybody. and that it was, quote, very hard to credibly claim foul. claim foul, they did and panic over viewers ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:21:00

Before rupert murdoch sits for a depo. it s because dominion is claiming $1.6 billion in damages yet the irony, you hit them where it hurts the most with civil litigation, their pocketbook, their bottom line dollars yet ironically that s what fox did. they cared so much about the bottom line dollar that they found themselves in the hot seat now because of that. what s amazing too and i want to read this, i want to get both of your opinions on this. there s something in the filing that we never knew before. on january 6th, as the insurrection, sort of the flames and the blood is not yet dry, let me read this. the afternoon of january 6th after the capitol came under attack then president trump dialed into lou dobbs show attempting to get on the air. but fox executives vetoed that decision. why? not because of a lack of newsworthness, january 6 was an important event by any measure. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:20:00

Actual malice and the judge in this case in his order said, proof of actual malice calls a defendant s state of mind into question and does not readily lend itself to summary disposition. that s at the very beginning of the case before none of this discovery comes out. and so now that you ve had all of this discovery and you ve seen that they all knew it wasn t true, what s really important about the law is what dominion argues, it says, yet fox despite knowing the truth or at a minimum recklessly disregarding that truth fox spread and endorsed outlandish voter fraud claims about dominion even as it internally recognized the lies as shocking and reckless. it s so hard to defeat a first amend defense when claiming defamation yet this is a rare case where it is so obvious on its face that fox knew what it was putting on the air was false or it recklessly chose to put something on the air that was false. this never happens but why is fox defending this? normally you would see a settlement ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:08:00

yeah, i m going to read that. i have that part of the filing but i just want to for folks at home that don t know all these people, rupert murdoch obviously sits at the top, suzanne scott sits atop fox news. tucker carlson, laura ingraham and sean hannity are the prime anchors in question here. and the lawsuit names names and brings receipts for everyone that i ve mentioned all the way down to the decision desk, the fact checkers and the fact checking department. i m going to read, nick, that section from the filing that you just talked about. in their group text thread, this is hannity, ingraham and tucker carlson, tucker carlson pointed hannity to a tweet by fox reporter jacqui heinrich who was fact checking dominion and mentioned hannity s show and correctly fact-checked the tweet ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:32:00

Many have you seen? and he said, hundreds. what do you think of the fact that dominion and i ve talked over the years, last two years to some folks involved in some of this. they have understood the facts to be on their side from the beginning and now that we re seeing the first glimpse of what those facts are, it certainly seems to be the case. i mean, look, i think reporters should be able to make mistakes in good faith and correct them. that s going to happen. it s going to happen at the place where i work. it s going to happen here in msnbc. that s part of having a good media. what this case has shown, though, i think it s a good system, by the way, what this case has shown is a network from top to bottom whose most important people understood that they are repeating things that they knew were wrong that they themselves mocked as ridiculous and presenting it to the viewers as fact over and over and over again. over and over again. ....

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