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Republicans have outside counsel, they have not told us who it is. do you have any awareness? >> i don't know who it is either. they say that they have to protect her name for her security and certainly with everyone in this process having received all sorts of threats from judge kavanaugh, dr. ford, everyone, that sounds plausible to me. but i'm not sure who it is. it is someone with experience though with prosecutings kinds of crimes that dr. ford has alleged. it will be someone let's just sats wi say with more experience than your typical judiciary member which is someone everyone complains...

This process. it's not untypical for our friends on the other side to pull that kind of crap. >> president trump is standing by his supreme court nominee leading the charge to try and keep his confirmation from being derailed. trump called mitch mcconnell on saturday with an unmistakable message, call the vote on judge kavanagh's nomination and call it soon. that's according to two people familiar with the conversation. amid his meetings at the united nations yesterday, the president defended kavanaugh. >> he's a feinman with an -- fine man with an unblemished past. these unsubstantiated state...

Send him to some cocktail parties around the unga, that that might be more helpful to mcconnell's effort which is really a dance at this point with those on-the-fence senators? >> there's actually a resignation that the tensions between the white house and the senate gop leaders can't really be solved. they're just trying to move forward together. ashley had some terrific reporting on this about how the president called senate majority leader mcconnell over the weekend and really railed against the process and said it needs to be moving more quickly. he would like to see a more assertive take ...

Kavanaugh side, to have the president out there basically trashing brett kavanaugh's accu accuser? >> it's not helpful based on my conversations with senate republican sources. at the same time, they say that most of these republican senators, whether it's senator corker, senator collins, or senator murkowski, are really at a point where they're making independent decisions. they see the president's voice as almost a distraction. it's a senate process. it's a senate vote. it's a senate decision. and the president in their view is really trying to rally conservatives and republican base voters ...

Represents a third possible accuser. democrats trying to push for a delay in this process. republicans saying they are going to plow through with this confirmation one way or the other. all of this is going to have a huge impact on the supreme court one way or the other. but talk to us a little bit about this standstill politically and what it means for the confirmation process. >> it's an interesting moment. because on the one hand finality is an objective that courts have as well. we want to get this hearing over with at some point, but what degree of delay is an appropriate amount of delay?...