Slow and getting arms to ukraine. but if we can do better, i think putin may find himself getting not much farther than he is already gotten. >> so what would you say, and i know that the official administration's point is ultimately this is an negotiation between ukraine and russia, and certainly what ukrainians are willing to accept. you outline some of them. but let me ask you from a different perspective, what would be a red line for us? which would be something that the united states, specifically, perhaps broadly speaking, nato or the eu, could not accept half an outcome from this confli...