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It's an argument he made many, many times since then and one that happens to serve russia's primary policy goal. disrupting the global order. author of the new best selling book the plot to destroy democracy, how putin and his spies are undermining america and dismantling the west. michael former u.s. ambassador to russia. thank you both for being here. malcolm, my friend. congratulations on the book and success of it. >> you know, the trump 1980s era is kind of fascinating because he had this fixation with russia to the point he got fooled by a fake imposter who showed up at trump tower and h...

Most of all i'm looking forward to having a civil disagreement with you on the air. >> that's right. i won't be shouting. >> thank you, chris, appreciate it. >> you're welcome. >> chris hayes is washington editor of "the nation" magazine. all right. so my next cockamamie theory is that someone is impersonating john mccain. he looks like john mccain, he sounds like john mccain, but he doesn't believe any of the things john mccain used to say he believed in and he doesn't like the word maverick. it's maybe even worse than an imposter, it's a fake imposter, which is a really awesome double unre...

Distraction from the election. most of all i'm loan being forward to having civil disagreement with you on the air. >> that's right. i won't be shouting. >> thank you, chris, appreciate it. >> you're welcome. >> chris hayes is washington editor of "the nation" magazine. all right. so my next cockamamie theory is that someone is impersonating john mccain. he looks like john mccain, he sounds like john mccain, but he doesn't believe any of the things john mccain used to say and he doesn't like the word maverick. it's maybe even worse than an imposter, it's a fake imposter, which is -- a fake i...