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Stop. >> and donald trump is out here urging defiance. it's one thing for people who are fan fiction and writing things online to react to that, it's another for those who would end up in the slammer and have their life affected that way. it's also a long ways from where bannon claimed to be because they did have a falling out, when i interviewed him once in his townhouse where he does some of his media and other political work, i pressed him on this point. i'm curious your reaction because apparently it's shifted. this is back when he was saying he didn't care much of what trump even thought ...

Trump's taxes. it was another battle that trump lost. though all the defiance bought them time with delays. now trump is the person publicly and apparently privately telling aides and allies to defy this next insurrection probe. the legal strategy that could land his own aides in jail. and remember, bannon and trump had that ugly falling-out, bannon claiming he didn't know trump all that well, and were going their own ways. >> what is your current relationship with president trump? >> you can see it every day on tv. it's exactly what people report. president trump is doing his thing, i'm doing...

For allegedly defrauding trump supporters. remember, trump let him off the hook and pardoned him. so, even if executive privilege did apply here -- and it should not, neither with the others and certainly not with bannon -- because that protection is about a president and key advisers so they can have conversations without fear of exposure. but in 2018, trump said of bannon, steve bannon has nothing to do with me or my presidency. now, that was after they had a falling out, but that's irrelevant. if bannon had nothing to do with the presidency according to former president trump, how could the...

Direction and honor his invocation of executive privilege. now, this fails twice. first, again, there is no privilege for a former president, which is what trump is, to be exercised by the same. second, bannon wasn't even part of the administration on january 6th. he was a podcast host under indictment, as a matter of fact, for allegedly defrauding trump supporters. remember, trump let him off the hook and pardoned him. so, even if executive privilege did apply here -- and it should not, neither with the others and certainly not with bannon -- because that protection is about a president and k...

Paid. beyond that, there is no question about us falling out of favored non -- credits. there's plenty of money to play the debt service. the problem is there is not enough money to pay for what the democrats want. that is why they keep complaining and threatening. they want to raise the debt ceiling to pay for trillions and trillions of dollars, the redistribution of wealth in their marxist spending plan. that's it. >> sean: and no republican should support it. mitch. mark levin, thank you. don't forget marc's show, number one every sunday night, right here on the fox news show, life, liberty...