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To 34% and he's desperately trying to hold his base together. i talk to a lot of conservatives and so do you, i think one thing that holds donald trump's base together is hate tread of the media, contempt, he realizes that he's dividing the country, but he's unifying his base at the same time. it's a political strategy to be sure. >> another interesting donald trump family example of reacting to harvey coverage this week, one of the president's sons eric trump wrote this on twitter, he was touting the fact that the president was going to donate 1 million to the recovery. he said i'm so impress...

April of 2011 cuts $38.5 billion in spending. if you scale that down to your family example we just showed you, that would be like paying down $154,000 credit card balance by $385. so bigger automatic cuts are expected in two months, but our next guests, alan simpson and erskine bowles, two men who were on the president's debt commission, think it won't be enough. they say washington missed a magic moment to do something big. they are here to tell us where the

April of 2011 cuts $38.5 billion in spending. if you scale that down to your family example we just showed you, that would be like paying down $154,000 credit card balance by $385. so bigger automatic cuts are expected in two months, but our next guests, alan simpson and erskine bowles, two men who were on the president's debt commission, think it won't be enough. they say washington missed a magic moment to do something big. they are here to tell us where the

$38,000. that would mean $14,000 or so would have to be put on a credit card that already has a balance of about $164,000. in the past, it's been politically difficult to make far-reaching cuts. the debt ceiling deal back in april of 2011 cuts $38.5 billion in spending. if you scale that down to your family example we just showed you, that would be like paying down $164,000 credit card balance by $385. so bigger automatic cuts are expected in two months, but our next guests, alan simpson and erskine bowles, two men who were on the president's debt commission, think it won't be enough. they say...