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Violations of open meetings law, late night votes, 17 second votes in the state assembly, again and again, things that are so controversial. wisconsinites have a right to be skeptical. they have a right to say, look, we need a recount. we need to look at all these ballots and make sure that our supreme court, no matter who goes up to it -- is legitimate. >> and the kloppenberg camp will move quickly to try to get as many records through the open records law as possible. that will probably be the next chapter in this unbelievable story. john nichols, thanks for joining us tonight. i'm going to ...