That and say in 30 days i'll be for the wall. we don't think it works. it's not good technology. there are better ways to secure the border. many experts think that. but the main issue here is this president is using a device shutting down the government which should never be pursued. no president ought to run on the basis that i'll shut down your government. no president ought to put 800,000 people at risk. no president should put the people who use the services of government at risk of being unable to settle on their home, pay their mortgage, get their farm payment. >> here's what's confusin...