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Concerned. by simple numbers, if thousands of people enter unvetted at any time, you are going to have people enter the country that shouldn't be here. that's not a fear tactic. that's just the truth. i'm glad you brought that up. brian: what about diseases? there is a reason you can't bring a kid to school unless he is inoculated. there are things that happen in this country. we already give 40 to 50% of our taxable income to the government for social programs is it too much to say we just can't have country's entire populations come in here without being looked at as hard-hearted. practical ...

It's the same language that was used frankly in st. louis to talk about black people stealing the election in 2000 when that didn't happen. it was the language that trump used to talk about people stealing, trying to steal the election in 2016. so it is to link blackness or brownness with criminality, with stealing the election from good, honest, hard-working coded white americans. it is a fear tactic and it is a fear tactic that is not based on any evidence. when the voter suppressors themselves go to try to prove that there's voter suppression, they can't pull up this massive body of work th...

Examples of foreign intelligence services, including the iranians, by the way, trying to use the southern border to conduct an operation in the united states. so if you want to focus on what the real problem is with that caravan it isn't those things. you want national security to focus on the challenges that we do have on the southern border when it comes to national security. he conflates everything and then blows it up and that's -- so if you are serious about this problem, i think it makes it harder to try to get to the solutions when you do this. >> he's making stuff up. he's making stuff...

Four states will have a chance to unrig the system for themselves this fall. >> that's great, john, giving people how to empower themselves. >> we're seeing the impacts of some of decisions made already. all right. the president's midterm strategy. why is he saying what he is saying and in some cases saying things that are not true? let's get to it. >> what he is doing this week is just making things up. his strategy seems to be to flood the zone with nonsense. >> you are going to find middle easte eastern. we're not allowing them in our country. >> it would be funny if it was not so insulti...

Honest, hard-working coded white americans. it is a fear tactic and it is a fear tactic that is not based on any evidence. when the voter suppressors themselves go to try to prove that there's voter suppression, they can't pull up this massive body of work that this is happening. >> michael, listen, i want to get this point in. really quick response if you will. there's a study in the "washington post" that found minority participation in the elections is lower in places that restrict voter i.d.s -- voter i.d. laws where it's implemented. that's the point, correct? >> that's exactly the point....