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Budgets. we're going to stay here and work on ourselves, we're more flexible with you guys. we're cutting our defense budget and focusing on the welfare state. i think up until now the president has failed. the ukraine is a fairly western country. because of a if he can -- feckle feckless eu and -- >> i've got to correct you on just one thing, i -- i hate to do it, those intermediate missiles go there in 79 and 80, they did not go there because of president reagan. >> harold brown did that. he was the secretary of defense. >> the point is this feud was supposed to be behind us because of peace...

Divisiveness created by a party to win an election. is there such a thing as a patriotic fervor. >> we're talking about ukraine, right? we have almost no trade -- about a billion and a half dollars in ukraine with ukraine. import about $1.9 billion. the eu has $32 billion in and out. this is the eu's fight. this isn't our fight. there's nothing really in this for us other than trying to flex our muscle and say, hey, vlad, listen, we're tired of you playing that game. >> i disagree. >> but there are other tyrants around the world that pay attention to that. >> our trade with europe is important...

They took the wall down. he had everything going for him. he didn't want people to like him. he wanted them to fear him, and they did fear him. number two, he also had the strategic -- the star wars, remember that? the fbi. >> 15 years before it was ever -- >> he put intermediate -- >> i'll tell you this, you're going to tell me, star wars, the fbi had nothing to do? >> i think it did. let me ask you, you think reagan would stand on the border of kiev and say get out? >> he doesn't have to. >> the most important thing reagan did besides draining and bringing the russians to their knees which i...

The welfare state. how is the president going to rally the eu, which was a big point yesterday on the show. when we have the french sending vessels over to help the russian navy and the germans have shown no appetite to get involved. president obama has no cards to play. >> those mid-range weapons in europe were introduced by harold brown and jimmy carter in 1978 and 1979. you're right about the french, the feckless eu. >> at least carter canceled the olympics. president obama doesn't even have the guts to do that. he canceled, whaultd, the paralympics? >> i think it's a difficult position bec...

The welfare state. how is the president going to rally the eu, which was a big point yesterday on the show. when we have the french sending vessels over to help the russian navy and the germans have shown no appetite to get involved. president obama has no cards to play. >> those mid-range weapons in europe were introduced by harold brown and jimmy carter in 1978 and 1979. you're right about the french, the feckless eu. >> at least carter canceled the olympics. president obama doesn't even have the guts to do that. he canceled, whaultd, the paralympics? >> i think it's a difficult position bec...