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actually seen by people. and i think that's -- i know that's what makes this so different. there will be cameras in this courtroom. it's not a federal proceedinget why. likely cameras in the state courtroom and she would likely be a key witness. that brings the humanity of these alleged crimes, i think, to the fore, john. >> i think having cameras in the courtroom, which is the federal courts have lagged behind this, you know, in some draconian way where they are open to the public, but not all the public p because not everybody can get down to the courthouse. whe when the trial is televised the jury of public opinion gets 30 form opinions about what really went on in court, not the snapshot. those moments have real power. >> all right. stay with us. we have a lot more to dig into here. first, back to this story. very important story of the governor of hawaii calling it a tragedy beyond tragedies. more bodies found assist after last week's deadly fires. a report from maui next.

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