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Don't have now, now we have bureaucrats who can't make a distinction between who needs a kick in the pants. we'll put them back in the venue of human relationships whereby you can apply the feedback loops of incentives and app row bags and disdain and stigma and all the rest which can make these problems solvable. >> and this audience is different from most in that they understand that before the welfare state, there were mutual aid societies everywhere which helped people. larry, tell us about that. >> absolutely. there's nothing about being a politician that makes you more compassionate and ...

Build, break learn and do that as many times as you can as fast as you can, turn those feedback loops into shorter and shorter and shorter loops and xwroe your business with as few dollars as possible and ultimately, that will lead to a strong foundation and to the biggest business you're capable of building. >> we do this in my company as i just said. it pains me to put stuff out there that's not perfect. we do it because we build it, get it out there, get feedback but when i get it, i think i want to trick tweak that and it's heartbreaking even though i know's the right thing to do. >> becau...

Thing we love is this idea of build, break, learn and do that as many times as you can, as fast as you can. turn those feedback loops into shorter and shorter loops. and really be able to grow your business with as few dollars as possible. and ultimately that will lead to a strong foundation and to the biggest business that you're capable of building. >> we do this in my company, as i just said, but alfred, it pains me to put stuff out there that's not perfect. we do it because we build, break, learn, get it out there, get feedback. when i get it sometimes i think i want to tweak that and it's...

If you don't know that, then you're going to have this whole debate in a vacuum. and when you talk about guns, the fact that this president, i think by any standard, has generally been very, very protective of broad second amendment rights. the things he's talking about have nothing to do whatsoever with taking people's guns away from them in their homes. i like to mention, i grew up in a home with a gun. i'm not worried about that. i think background checks and these other proposals are common sense and work, if you're open to understanding how they work. when you have that blockage and you h...

A home with a gun. i'm not worried about that. i think background checks and these other proposals are common sense and work, if you're open to understanding how they work. when you have that blockage and you have a lot of institutional support for ignorance, because it's politically useful, then you get into these really bad feedback loops. >> yeah, this phenomenon of believing that a one world government is going to take over depends on sealing yourself off from information. and that's the only point i was making about bill o'reilly. he thinks these people are crazy too. i don't mean to in a...