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end up winding up doing to our fellow -- >> on one side of the scale is the current situation in venezuela which is quite dire as it is in cuba, right? what would we do to even the scales to get to the point of what we were doing produced an equal amount of desperation, as would be really. >> a quarter of venezuela is gone. staggering, thank you my friend as always. and thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. on november 4th of 2008 america elected its first black president. senator john mccain had called senator barack obama to concede the race, and as he began to deliver ...

on our house in terms of what we will end up doing to our fellow human being. >> if you think of a scale, on one side of the scale it's like the current situation in venezuela, which is quite dire, as it is in cuba, what would we do to even the scales, to get to a point where what we were doing produced an equal amount of desperation. >> yes. >> it's unthinkable. >> a quarter of venezuela's gone. staggering, thank you my friend, as always. thanks to at-home for joining us this hour. on november 4th of 2008, america elected its first black president. senator john mccain had called sen...

the race, and as he began to deliver his concession speech before a crowd in phoenix, arizona, this happened. >> a little while ago, i had the honor of calling senator barack obama to congratulate him. [crowd chanting] please. to congratulate him. on being elected the next president of the country that we both love. >> john mccain. gently, but firmly, and managing a crowd of republicans for booing the election of our nation's first black president. at the time, this was seen as an important moment, it wasn't as though statesmanship was exactly the norm in the republican party. it was...

>> kim, sorry, do you agree with that can seat that this is effectively party white failure on display? this is the fact that nobody is the adult in the room? nobody is saying, all of, you be quiet, mr. former president. is this an indictment of the gop? >> it is, i agree with that in part. most of the way. here is one piece of evidence in favor of what jamele's arguing, if you look after the election, they're in was a moment where maybe not a huge majority, a slight majority of the party really was ready to move on from trump, after the 2022 election. they just lived the 2020 election, had th...

Effectively party white failure on display? this is the fact that nobody is the adult in the room? nobody is saying, all of, you be quiet, mr. former president. is this an indictment of the gop? >> it is, i agree with that in part. most of the way. here is one piece of evidence in favor of what jamele's arguing, if you look after the election, they're in was a moment where maybe not a huge majority, a slight majority of the party really was ready to move on from trump, after the 2022 election. they just lived the 2020 election, had the insurrection, in the midterms go poorly, and a lot of repu...