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>> and huge data point or argument for more time for joe biden inor the white house. >> yes, probably. >> thank you, my friend. president biden was in normandy today commemorating the 80th anniversary of d-day, and while he was there he was asked about something totally unrelated, whether he would issue a pardon for his son hunter if the federal jury in delawarefe convicts the youngerf felony gun possession. here's how president biden responded. >> as ween sit here in normandy your son hunter is on trial, and i know that you cannot speak about an ongoing federal prosecution, but le...

He wants to stay out of prison. and this is the only way he can do it. >> it's audacious again even one step beyond that because mike johnson is not only defending donald trump, not only suggesting he's a martyr, but saying the republican party is a rule of law. if you lookepis at the dictiona under the term gaslighting, that's it. like mike johnson suggests -- >> gaslighting with rocket fuel. >> yes. i just think, dan, there's been a lot of reported debate inside democratic circles about how far joe biden should go in the campaign, in thein re-elect campaign on this topic, and i wonder if you...