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That. i mean, you know, my abiding memory of paul ryan will be joe biden laughing at him during a debate, which as far as i know is unprecedented in american political debating. that was the -- you know, it was an economic discussion that brought out the word malarkey which had never appeared in a presidential or vice presidential debate before. yeah, with the donald trump thing, you know, there's a story about a blind pig and an acorn, but i think, you know, with his kind of ferrell predator instinct for political danger -- >> exactly. >> -- i think trump was right. every time ryan would pres...

Gratuitously cruel to a lot of people. >> you know, one of the things, charlie, about donald trump is he recognized more than other republicans the political peril of ryanism. paul ryan's budget is very dangerous to republicans just before the election, be careful. he was right. >> there's no question about that. i mean, you know, my abiding memory of paul ryan will be joe biden laughing at him during a debate, which as far as i know is unprecedented in american political debating. that was the -- you know, it was an economic discussion that brought out the word malarkey which had never appear...