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Are in the basement. >> the administration is doing a good job of beating the war drums and camping up the rhetoric. i think everyone is aware -- most people are aware this is a serious situation come or at least an situation the biden administration is taking seriously. what they have failed to do -- they still have yet to make the case for why this is in vital national security interest of the united states to go fight a war to protect the ukraine's borders. before we do anything like this -- and i remember covering the run up to all of the debates leading to the war in iraq back in zero thr...

Western europe. we're really gonna fight a war over some corrupt eastern european country that is strategically irrelevant to us. with everything else -- you never explain to you what's the point of nato was at this 0.30 years after -- >> i think there is a lot of how we shea legacy -- about nato where it's sort of has its own steam. we need to say to our nato allies that they need to do more of their own defense. >> but these faux popular boys are telling you that china would probably love it if we ignored russia's invasion of ukraine. that means that they can pull a putin in taiwan. these kr...

Have a fight a war to get. >> no the goal of the kurdish leadership is really to do this peacefully without war or bloodshed. >> a big schweicha group has already said there will be a war if you declare independence. >> well, if they attack kurd i stand definitely the kurds will defend themselves. >> the kurds have been called the largest nation without a state. any form sizable and persecuted minorities in five countries. but zebari is only talking about one, iraq. >> i'm mindful and careful about what i'm saying. we are specifically talking about iraqi kurd stand but not. >> this is about ku...

Oil fields you've taken by force. >> not by force actually. i would say. >> i was there. kurdish troops went in and dug a trench around the whole thing. >> we were there even before. >> so you're saying you retook an area always yours. >> exactly we managed to reverse it. >> in the middle east there are a lot of conflict. >> there are conflicts a long time and the same rationale. >> a lot of conflicts and so on but rights must be right. >> there is no such thing as a nice divorce. >> there isn't but there could be an amicable divorce. >> who gets the royale oil in this divorce. >> at the momen...

Compartmentalize it, so one of the lessons from the reagan administration is have one person, one office in charge of your rapid response or communications, your legalities to keep everybody from being dragged into it. and second, this administration just needs more fire power. part of the thin staffing that dame out of the transition, part of the weak planning for transition, is that they didn't have the normal surrogate operations, other elected officials to go out and talk for them, the calms, the rapid response, so all of that is being built and one of the architects is steve bannon. so st...