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So have you changed your mind, chris, about what you think went wrong with the party this year? >> well, we need to figure out what went wrong in terms of the numbers n.2008 obama got about 69 million, hillary clinton got a little over 60 million and that's not including during the time we add millions to the rolls, so the numbers about when people talk about hey we lost wisconsin birks you know, 12,000 or 20,000 votes, lost, you know, michigan by 15,000 or 20,000 votes and pennsylvania by 100,000 votes. it's actually a lot worse. we lost voters who voted democrat, who voted for barack obama t...

And the country in 1976. later came the rise of the democratic leadership council, a centrist vehicle that took bill clinton to the white house by pulling the party even further to the right. by 2008 after eight years of george w. bush the democratic coalition grown by liberal white voters, union members and particularly voters of color won back the white house, but liberal gains of the obama years triggered yet another backlash and soon they will have to give the white house back to a president who could be poised to roll back major parts of the obama legacy, erasing some of the most sweeping...

We stand up and we fight back. we do not back down. we do not compromise, not today, not tomorrow, not ever. >> well, that sounds good. that sounds like elizabeth warren is willing to double down and fight, but what about, you know, democrats who don't see this as a fighting party, who see this as a -- as a capitulating party, a party that always seeks compromise, that wants to be liked by the other side and doesn't have the numbers and doesn't necessarily have the backbone to fight donald trump? >> look, i totally agree with you, joy. here's the thing. here's what people need to understand. w...

Ident obama leads office, check, check and check. so what we can certainly expect over the next several months is the democrats will be doing a lot of soul searching trying to work out what went wrong for hillary clinton and for the party as a whole and how to make a comeback, and if the past is prologue the next chamter of the democratic reinvention will include trying to appease the right and make the party more centrist. it's kind of a democratic party tick. make sweeping change, lose a big election, shift to the right. that's exactly what happened after lyndon johnson and the major civil r...

Confronted donna brazill who who is brought in to bring the party back together, brought in to run the dnc and apparently had this meeting with democratic party staff on thursday when somebody yelled you are part of the problem blaming her for clearing the path for trump's victory by siding with clinton early on. you and your friends will die of old age and i'm going to die from climate clank. und your friends let this happen which is going to cut 40 years off my life expectancy. is it productive in your view, krystal, to have that particular fight over the dnc, bernie sanders and hillary clin...