To make you throw in the towel and i forget, and that may be the goal. i want too point out something you have in your document. in many cases they sort of would say, those questions that we asked you to fill out, just skip those. we have a new group of questions for you. delay, delay, delay. in some cases what they weren't doing was as powerful as what necessity were doing. they were sitting on their hands and not allowing any of these groups top move forward and basically trying to wear them out it would appear. >> exactly. we had sometimes 6 months where we would be sending letter to the tr...