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Rights down and he's helping will be fooled by them. we won't be, though, and i do hold the congress will act to proactively protect's rights immediately. >> let's follow up on wendy's point. i've heard this quite a bit. the growing frustration that congressional democrats haven't taken the steps to codify presidents like griswold. we'll, obergefell. what's your assessment of that? >> potentially part of that is knowing that they may not have the support they need to do that and congress. especially when we want and need. people on the other side of the aisle, to stand up for what's. right to ...

Senator, that she was lied to by justice kavanaugh and by justice gorsuch and that she relied on their statements in which they said i'm not the kind of judge that will rock the boat. it's settled law. and because she relied on those statements that were false, that she now feels compelled to join with the democrats in getting rid of the filibuster rules, which would require 60 and then it would only need 51 votes in order to pass what is the codification of roe vs. wade. >> one of your colleagues, new york congresswoman alexandria costa cortez. let me get your reaction to that. >> if we allow...

Firmly believe in common sense gun legislation, we haven't been able to get really any of the things we want. this time has to be different. if it means that we have to settle for less than what i would like, for example, i would like an assault weapons ban, compare it to the last 20 years, the facts speak for themselves. i am realistic, unless the senate changes filibuster rules, there's no way we get an assault weapons ban based on the current map. let's focus on what we can achieve. i think chris' approach is the right one. >> or to elect more democratic senators, you would have the opportu...

Well, earlier i spoke to robyn thomas, the executive director of the giffords law center to prevent gun violence. part of the challenge that we continue to face is the republicans' intransigence, intransigence especially on the senate side, because it is such a thin margin and the filibuster rules make it very difficult to get anything through without 60 votes. and i do think things have changed in this country since barack obama made his appeal after the sandy hook elementary school shooting. you know, we do have a much more robust movement, a much more robust grassroots movement, there's a l...

That analysis _ take any action. thank you for that analysis and _ take any action. thank you for that analysis and more - take any action. thank you for that analysis and more detail. j we can speak to robyn thomas, the executive director of the giffords law center to prevent gun violence. thank you forjoining us here on the bbc i was just asking our correspondent in washington if she felt this time round is any different to perhaps the last time we saw a president an appeal like that, barack obama? she is correct that part of the challenge that we continue to face is the republicans in trans...