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Court. >> so that does bring in -- okay. you've got a group, you voluntarily enter the group or you leave it, so you may not necessarily carry the same sign that maybe associated with the group, correct? >> but anybody for about $220 can sue anybody in the united states. whether there's a viable case that's the issue here. avery is right with his legal analysis. potentially would this person have a claim? they could bring a lawsuit, but they're not going to get anything here, zero. defamation is one of the most difficult cases to prove in court and the united kingdom, there are only two types ...

Why won't that argument be made? h. >> it will be marks but the fact that robert sha rep shapiro is he has a therapy facility as a consequence of losing a son, he also has legal zoom. so i guess it's the legal zoom therapy center. but whatever it's going to be, as soon as she's out of jail, she's going to be in that therapy center. that's what shapiro wants. he wants to take control, wants to make that representation to the judge. so she's not going to wind up back this trouble again. >> fascinating stuff. this is never ending. >> he's doing this to try to keep her out of prison and it's not g...