Was there a failure to report? but we're dealing with a bigger institutional thing here. we're dealing with the president. and the ncaa's not going to deal with did the president of penn state report, did the senior vp of business and finance report? have you to be able to separate those two. >> what's going on with syracuse, this other scandal. were there whispers about this as there were withierry sandusky? >> the initial allegations about bernie fine, the syracuse assistant coach stems back to 20 03. it was brought to the attention of investigators, it was brought to the attention of the me...