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on a tour. so i walked around. watch this exchange i had with sarah bloomfield, the museum director. we're speaking about the shoes, the shoes that are on exhibit at the museum. watch this. >> these are shoes, old shoes. >> this is one of our most iconic exhibits. if you visit these killing centers today, you see thousands upon thousands of shoes like this. the shoes of the victims. the germans took their shoes because they were going to reuse them and recycle them, if you will. but of course the victims would be killed. but this is what is left of those lives. >> these shoes are 80,...

Direct interaction with law enforcement. but artistic expression that one has used as a means to convey their lived experience or just delving into the depths of their imagination is not something you should suffer criminal liability for. >> yet if you think about it, one could possibly say, look, i didn't confess to a crime. i wasn't rapping my confession, it was my artistry at play here. and it could be used as the rhetoric to be used to suggest you're just couching that in the language to avoid criminality and prosecution. but is it a practice in terms of what's being used -- these are publ...