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time magazine for their article on pediatricians who serve trans youth facing increasing harassment. in the daily beast article, alabama trying to raise the legal driving age for trans people to 19. president and ceo glad sarah kate ellis took some time to address the increase in laws against the community. watch this. >> there is one thing that extremist politicians and activists can never ban, and that is our joy. we are not going to let them -- anyone tell our stories or villainize who we are. when the truth is, everyone deserves to live a life happily ever after. yes, so raise yo...

What are your expectations in terms of what's gonna happen there? >> you can see the results of the case very soon. >> what's very soon? >> i don't know how late the people work -- 2 to 3 days. max >> we have a good decision from a decent court of appeals essential-y affirming judge kaplan that when trump said what he said about e. jean in 2019, he was not acting as president. we're quite confident that that will be affirmed and will be able to move forward with damages. and we don't need to finding liability because we already have it. and we'll be able to find damages. they are the defamatio...

In ukraine with ukraine's consent. >> it is difficult. i mean, these are hard cases to make. it's not just a question of an individual committing an act. it's also what orders were given, what is the chain of command. >> indeed. they are very difficult cases. there's no question about it. and you do have a chain of command. and there may be individuals who are liable all the way up that chain of command from the individual on the ground, who's the direct perpetrator, to the person at the top, who's the architect of violence, and who's either issuing orders or who's failing to properly supervis...

Everything we know so far what does this tell you about any of this getting close to donald trump, the former president himself, or i think of michael cohen, and how he ended up going to jail, but nothing really ended up touching donald trump. >> yeah, i think i would add to your sentence there, yet. i think the inclusion of allen weisselberg in this indictment signals that prosecutors are interested in flipping him in hopes of finding liability for others up to and including donald trump. allen weisselberg, as the cfo, as tom said, is someone in a key position. when you have an organization a...