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Focusing on the fundraising and the wire fraud, signify to you, joyce, that jack smith is getting closer to securing an indictment? >> so, i think it's hard to say, close, oh for his, are we all know about finding willis and the imminent issue. i think prosecutors are moving along at an appropriate speed, and that's really what we want to see them do. katy, you'll remember, we talked about it at the time, this fraudulent fund raising effort was one of the surprise issues that developed during the houses january six committee hearings, where we heard from some of the staff members, and from con...

But no one was with him in a room to give contemporaneous evidence about the phone cal between donald trump and mik pence was. so, there might be something very interesting >> it might be, you know assuming that he tells the truth, i'll be very telling. i'm sure he knows that peopl were saying outside the capital, hang mike pence. he'll be asked, how did yo feel about that? did you hear that they wer doing that so, it'll be very compelling testimony. >> is there any, would joc smith and all be concerned about finding willis and georgia, going ahead with he case they relate to each other, they'...

Implored raffensperger to find the 11,780 votes that he needed to win the state. witnesses investigation is also looking into the fake elector scheme in that state. that has made trump's personal attorney, rudy giuliani, a target of that vest again. paso awesomely john eastman and the pro trump republicans who served as a fickle actors. the grand jury in georgia has pursued the testimony of other key trump allies, like the -- senator lindsey graham, mark meadows, and former national adviser mark flynn. all of whom were ordered to participate in the investigation. it is unclear where exactly do...