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Families earning up to 130% over the federal poverty guidelines. 32,000 dollars for a family of tpoufrplof for. so, the 15 states that you see here are likely to turn down washington's promise to pay up to 90% of the cost of that expansion, 11 states are undecided and 24 plan to take the money. >> with this move we will secure a federal revenue stream to cover the cost of the uninch churneuninsured who already show up in our doctors office and emergency rooms. >> reporter: governor brewer offers that if she doesn't take the money other states will, meaning her residents would subsidize the med...

Society as well. the gifts from the government is a way to keep people unempowerred. >> this goes to obama's core philosophy which we heard in the second inaugural and nancy pelosi who called unemployment a jobs bill. positive liberty is when the government gives you stuff that lets you be all you can be. that's what obama talked about in the second inaugural. he said all these programs liberate people to be entrepreneurial. my suspicions if you give them free this, free that. it doesn't make them entrepreneurs but it makes them dependent on the government. martha: thank you, jonah. always goo...

>> there is an awful lot of tension between the grassroots and the establishment in the republican party. the grassroots believe the establishment is ideologically corrupt, they don't really mean it, and the establishment things the gas roots is crazy and are putting up mediocre candidates. the bottom line is not whether you're conservative or hreu or liberal. if you can't, for example, attack abortion without appearing into dores rape yo endorse rape. it's not a question of who is conservative and who is liberal it's a question of who is articulate. martha: what karl was saying last night is ...

Administration's policy towards the war on terror? >> i think a couple of things. they don't want to get their fingers dirty. they don't want american casualties. known wants that. the problem i think is three in the whole drone war idea, number one we may have been very good at the very beginning when we were taking out key people in very difficult to reach parts of pakistan and afghanistan but we've now expanded that drone war and are the third thing martha that worries me probably more than anything we are lowering the threshold of when we use force. it's an important thing to have american...

What that might have looked like. >> this is where the continents came from. this is new earth being born. martha: as you point out the reason that it's happening in this spot, is the tectonic plates, right, merging and nashing against each other. how quickly is that process happening? >> north america and russia, like it or not we are moving closer together. it's about two inches a year, the rate your fingernails grow. that little bit of motion is enough that the rocks scrape together that creates incredible heat and friction and that is the result. it's the same thing that caused the tsunami...