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25th amendment. if this is true, it's huge. >> it is. i think it says a lot about rosenstein's state of mind. whether he was being serious or not, there seems to be some disagreement. i think it shows you just the amount of turmoil surrounding him, surrounding the justice department in that key period between the time comey was fired as mueller was appointed. the president's relationship with the deputy attorney general has been up and down. last year, he seemed like he was coming close to firing him. you might remember, he tweeted last summer he can't believe he's being investigated for firin...

The president total control over the investigation in which he might be implicated. so i don't think there's any circumstances in which rosenstein should tender his resignation, and i don't think that in the event that the president fires him, it's another piece of substantial evidence, it is the second piece after the firing of comey in a potential obstruction case that bob mueller may where putting together. >> i want to bring in also jill winebanks who was of course a witness to the saturday night massacre. pete says he sees this as a slow moving saturday night massacre, because if rosenste...

It needs to be jeff sessions. the president, if he does it, the deep state wants him to do it so they can bludgeon him. >> i don't care who fires him, whether it is sessions or the president, it may not be politically expedient at this time. he certainly deserves to be fired. by the way, as a consequence of his actions, the special counsel investigation should be terminated because he has corrupted and tainted the integrity of it. >> sean: that i agree with, too. sara? >> sean, this was a silent coup, a bloodless coup. they were trying to do it. they got caught. they didn't know how to do it. ...

The president, if he does it, the deep state wants him to do it so they can bludgeon him. >> i don't care who fires him, whether it is sessions or the president, it may not be politically expedient at this time. he certainly deserves to be fired. as a consequence of his actions, the special counsel investigation should be terminated because he has corrupted and tainted the integrity of it. >> sara? >> sean, this was a silent coup, a bloodless coup. they were trying to do it. they got caught. they didn't know how to do it. everything is coming out now and we need an investigation, a special cou...

The deep state wants him to do it so they can bludgeon him. >> i don't care who fires him, whether it is sessions or the president, it may not be politically expedient at this time. he certainly deserves to be fired. as a consequence of his actions, the special counsel investigation should be terminated because he has corrupted and tainted the integrity of it. >> sara? >> sean, this was a silent coup, a bloodless coup. they were trying to do it. they got caught. they didn't know how to do it. everything is coming out now and we need an investigation, a special counsel to take over and find out...