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Forth with police. the police chief says he's concerned about the officer's use of a closed fist to strike the suspect several times. what do you say about this? >> well, you know, i think it's great that we're talking about training but, you know, the vast, vast majority of police officers are terrific and work hard and do a great job. a lot -- but a significant portion are terrible and they shouldn't be retrained, they should be fired and they shouldn't be cops in the first place. so, you know, i think we have to recognize and, you know, this has transformed everything in law enforcement bec...

Think willie, you thought, that language was a bit over the top. and it's never quite that simple. and barnicle, you're smirking. so you know it was demagoguery. even though i respect you for holding up your side of the position. do you understand, john? >> i do, but it's justifiable on the facts just as it was justifiable back when democrats said when we continue to leave 35 million uninsured in this country, weapon don't fix health care, more people will die. it's all true. it's true. >> look at barnicle. you know it was pure demagog demagoguery. would i have voted to fund teachers, to fund ...

>> >> jamie: christopher, let me pop in for a second. wasn't the stimulus package all about infrastructure. shovel ready projects getting money to people. >> 45% of the stimulus was tax cuts. another 30% of it was aid to states to keep them from firing cops, teachers and nurses. then there was some money that went to infrastructure projects. we need a renewal of our long-term transportation capital budget in this country. the president needs to push for that this year. he needs to find the money to do that. i will tell you the money has got to come from somewhere. we can't tax it we can't make...