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Dama damaging. trump talking about it is foolish and it continues of the tendency of us talking about it does not help him. the real work he has to do is not firing pollsters and not everyone staying off the story but do something about these numbers which are not the interim numbers that are consistent of all the numbers. this is where he is right now which is losing not just joe biden but to many democrats, second tier democrats in a lot of states he got to win. >> look at where we all are right now. joe biden is not the nominee. presidents jon edwards and -- he seems to have a profound on t...

Not firing pollsters and not everyone staying off the story but do something about these numbers which are not the interim numbers that are consistent of all the numbers. this is where he is right now which is losing not just joe biden but to many democrats, second tier democrats in a lot of states he got to win. >> look at where we all are right now. joe biden is not the nominee. presidents jon edward and -- he seems to have a profound on the president's thinking. >> when trump sees biden, he thinks ohio and pennsylvania and wisconsin. he's a survivor and he knows what biden represents. biden...

Tendency of us talking about it does not help him. the real work he has to do is not firing pollsters and not everyone staying off the story but do something about these numbers which are not the interim numbers that are consistent of all the numbers. this is where he is right now which is losing not just joe biden but to many democrats, second tier democrats in a lot of states he got to win. >> look at where we all are right now. joe biden is not the nominee. presidents jon edward and -- he seems to have a profound on the president's thinking. >> when trump sees biden, he thinks ohio and penn...

Now this shows that he is behind biden, sanders, warren, even people to judge. people inside his own camp willie numbers. this is a political problem, which shows that he is starting 2020 someone as an underdog. he is not going to be able to solve this problem just by firing pollsters. >> neil: i do wonder whether or not the president is saying look what is going on in the states where they are looking like pennsylvania for example, record low. why isn't he benefiting more in these polls from just that? >> that is certainly a question that the trump campaign is asking themselves right now amid...

Presidency when it is occupied by someone who has never occupied any public office at any level before. which is to say when you treat the presidency as an entry-level office, this is what you get. someone who -- let's assume he means well, that may be rash. but it is someone who simply is un -- not conversant with the rules of the road. with the common manners of public life. and it is chaos. >> presumably, sarah, this data was leaked, i would think, by somebody on the campaign or whatever who is concerned, who wants president trump to be re-elected and trying to convey to him, hey, you're in...