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Mark hertling. dave, first natasha was reporting, what are you hearing about this aggressor state decidingation? >> well, one of the problems with naming them as a state sponsor of terror, though they would certainly fit the bill, given the attacks on the infrastructure, then it triggers a whole series of additional sanctioning some of this may make it more difficult to have some flexibility in how you deal with financial transfers, so the administration was trying to avoid that, but still get congress a way to sort of vent their views on russia. this is the wording. it would carry with it a s...

America interests. >> reporter: this comes as $45 billion in aid to ukraine has been rolled into the larger $1.7 trillion bill to keep the government open. ind kate, that bill could pass the senate, and over to the house, where they're whipping over the bill. >> a critical juncture, and as you perfectly laid out, a really historic moment will play out this evening, and a surprise to many of us that it's even hatching. with this visit as the backdrop, there's new cnn reporting that the white house and democratic lawmakers have been working for months on a more to formally designate russia as ...

>> you do your job and understand you have to submit to these congressional hearings. congress is fulfilling its oversight role in a very bipartisan way. they're trying to protect the president so rod rosenstein is in a poogs where he has to regard the congress as basically a supplement to the president's defense team. it's an excluesly difficult position. >> first natasha and then david. even in this indictment that rod rosenstein issued, it talked about that republicans also went after the rnc. do republicans have a sense, do they understand as marco rubio said today the russians want to hel...