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Playing out. and i think what we're going to witness in the next few months and next year is a new g geo-strategic fault line. between turkey on the one hand and saudi arabia on the other hand. president erdogan basically is trying to reclaim the legacy. while saudi arabia basically is the guardian of the two holier places and the birthplace of islam. so you're going to have multiple ge geostrategic faultlines in it. we're talking about jamal khashoggi. what that case tells us is a broader lesson about not just saudi arabia and the arab world. this notion of the -- the notion of the personalit...

>> that's what i would say to mohammed bin salman. saudi arabia is a highly conservative country. it's one of the most conservative countries in the arabic islamic world. it will not take just one year or one decade to transform saudi arabia. it probably will take preem three or four decades. what the crown prince has been trying to do is in a hurry to consolidate. would be what? institutionalized, nourish a healthy society, a new social contract. checks and balances. what the crown prince has been trying to do is transformations by sharks. final points, i want to take you

He was working for prince turkey el faisal who became ambassador to britain and would become ambassador to the united states. yet khashoggi was even in those days a liberal and a reformer. though always moderate and incremental in his approach. he worried that too much reform would be disruptive. he said we do not want to break the society. watching crown prince mohammed bin salman's approach today, a mix of authoritarianism and reforms, khashoggi became more critical. why was he seen as so threatening? probably because he was so respected within the saudi establishment. consider what i was to...

Gave the order to kill him. period. and those criminals have to be held responsible. also i think it's true when the united states doesn't stick up for the values that we at our best stand for including democracy and free speech and freedom of expression and freedom of religion, then bad guys in the world start to feel like they can do things and get away with it. and we have seen as you say more and more of that. putin poisoning enemies in britain. and china kidnapping enemies in hong kong and elsewhere. and now saudi arabia thinking it can lure one of its own citizens to its own diplomatic c...

American foreign policy to saudi arabia. washington has watched and endorsed the kingdom as it ramped up its bloody war in yemen. and essentially kidnapped the prime minister of lebanon. all these moves have in large part failed. america's middle east policy should be based on its interests and values in the region and beyond. and these will never be perfectly aligned with any one country. historically this has meant being an honest broker, respected by all major powers in the region. this requires nuance, sophisticati sophistication, and ceaseless high quality diplomacy. but that is the price...