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Of the border is enforce, it's ridiculous. it takes a couple people. not a thousand. one or two. >> just one. timmy mcveigh. a lot of people in the united states committed criminal acts. >> laura: je to deal with them as well. >> that's right. so we should have a more secure system and the right, the correctness. build the bridges not the walls. >> laura: that is a cliche. let's go in to this. no cliches on the show. building bridges instead of walls. i'm talking facts here. go ahead. >> this man's narrative is the problem with connecticut. i got tw -- problem with the country. i have two thin...

Why? >> well, i think first of all, african-americans have immense pride in president obama as a president. they see it as a major accomplishment in this country. and embracing an african-american leader. and they are positive and hopeful, probably, more than anything else, that his leadership will make their lives better. >> all right, but it didn't turn out that way. he had four years to improve. the black unemployment rate. and it's not improving. so are you saying that african-american community en masse is voting on hope. hope it will get better but it hasn't gotten better. >> yeah. i wou...

>> woodward was granted broad unfettered access to the white house in first term. hard to dispute he is under attack in the second. >> former advisor and 2008 campaign manager david plouffe hammered woodward as has-been in a tweet last night. watching woodward in the last two days is imagining my idol schmidt pitching again. perfection gained once is rarely repeated. plenty of reporters have received angry call and e-mail from the staff and it began long before he was elect and never stopped. what is surprise manage in this case it's finally woodward and this time he went public with it. >> br...

That's kind of a brought set of things, including memorandums and orders. orders send to strike the ayre of republicans in this particular congress because it sounds like the president is overreaching, but, karen, my question to you is, you know, there's this kind of pomp and circumstance about bipart sfwlanship on the night of the state of the union, you know, cats sit with dogs and dogs sit with cats and everybody pretends to get along for a second. i am worried that this thing is going to be ugly. >> i was going to say, with ted nugent in the house, i don't see cats and dogs sitting togethe...

>> well, i really have no idea. why they would allow ran paul to do this. just displaying the disunity in the party whereby and the fact that it can't get its act together at the moment. it's interesting, though. rubio, the sort of savior of the party, it is possible to sit down and speak with him for an hour, an hour and a half, and think this is really impressive. this guy really has something to say. then you look at your notes afterwards, and it's not -- there's not quite as much as you thought there was. >> well, it's funny because a lot of republicans hail him as kind of the republican -...