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We're discussing whether it would be true? we should be saying, there's no way the president of the united states would speak like that. >> correct. >> but we aren't saying that, because he does speak like that. >> what he says on the record, we should be attacking. we should be talking about that. >> and he's the leader of the country and the most divisive president we've had -- >> it's all donald trump -- >> the fish rots from the head, rob. you've got to show leadership. the buck stops somewhere. you can't continue to pass the buck to everybody else. >> there's a lot of rot in the democrati...

Tampering, it's also really, really inappropriate. what we're seeing here is a congressman not even pretending to be discharging his constitutional function in conducting oversight but is being open about the fact this is separation of parties, not separation of pows arers, he's taught there to be one of the president's thugs and throw sand in the eyes of the american people. but he's right, donald trump doesn't degrade his own office. the fish rots from the head here. we are seeing the degradation of the entire republican party. >> i love your use of the word inappropriate. it's so quaint. i'...

Whether he participated. >> if a whole bunch of your campaign people worked with moscow to defeat an opponent, would you feel a little bit responsible? seems to me extraordinary the fish rots from the head. i wonder if trump is a victim or a potential target of a recount charge because he was running a criminal enterprise seems to me. >> you can tell it's getting harder for sarah sanders to deny this has anything to do with the president as the gets closer and closer to the president. i'm not surprised that roger stone has been indicted for making false statements. that was of all the intervie...

Pain. the trump base includes federal work es that are likely badly pinched. >> i will say this again, the fish rots at it's head. he is holding 800,000 people hostage who are saying they may be out of a home in two days, next week, or whatever it is because they can't pay their rent, day care, or child care. he doesn't care. only thing he cares about is just his rhetoric, his awful political rhetoric and watching fox news, listening to rush limbaugh and ann coulter. that's the only thing he cares about, not even his own base. >> let's be fair to kellyane. you cannot instill those messages to ...

Foundation. all under criminal scrutiny. the six pack of investigations are said to include a number of alleged illegal activities like campaign finance violations, accounting fraud, tax fraud, conspiracy, obstruction of justice and lying to the fbi. four people linked to the trump campaign itself have already been indicted by the special counsel. and one of mueller's key operating witnesses michael cohen told abc's george stephanopoulos today that nothing happened in the trump organization without the ceo -- that is donald trump himself, knowing about it. so the fish rots from the head. let's...