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Leader am or as the ceo, maybe i'm not setting the right example. is this actually a reflection on me? >> exactly right. and we do hold the commander responsible for the overall climate within their organization. so you've got the president and frankly, the key members around him and on his staff and i think john kelly would know this very well, as a marine, that the commander, the command section bears responsibility for the morale of the unit, for the purposefulness of the unit. and i really do think that the white house would be well advised -- and here, i'm trying to be supportive -- would...

Just to line their own pockets, just to improve their careers going forward? or are they here to work in the public interest? we've had corruption scandals in american history before. and each time the american people have responded, we have tightened up the laws. it's gotten better and then, you know, corruption has found new ways into this system. now it is time for us to come together and to say, enough of this. no more taking care of yourself, if you want to work in public interest, you really have to work in public interest. >> yeah. i'll just say this obviously opinion but as the fish ro...

Potentially go away a little bit faster, but every time he weighs in on it, it just adds fire to the news cycle and gives her more and more appearances to -- more and more media hits and things to share her opinion. i think it would be better served to ignore it and i absolutely think those comments were beyond the pail and i don't endorse that whatsoever. >> what's your read on this? >> the fish rots from the head, so the president is setting the tone back to his first day in office about what's tolerable, and it seems that anything in this white house is tolerable. in theory, someone who wor...

White house and then he was allowed to resign. but, willie, there is such a -- such a culture of corruption there. somebody yesterday said that collins had to feel picked on when you had wilbur ross, in their words, doing insider trading at a pace the guy thought he only had two weeks to live. and, you know, since trump says he's only good until 11:00 a.m. in the morning, that was a pretty busy 9:30 to 11:00 block to do insider trading. you look. look at the "forbes" article. just a culture of corruption and, of course, as they always say, the fish rots from the head. >> matt miller, these are...

>> what we saw today establishes the motive and opportunity for manafort to collude with the russians. he had motive and is broke. from the collusion standpoint, that is what i saw today. and the other thing i saw today and people need to understand this, it is unprecedented for a president's campaign manager to be this deep into as you put it a massive scheme for tax fraud. this guy is like wesley snipes with his taxes and trump hasn't said about it. >> what did he say? he is getting the raw deal. >> his campaign was managed by blade. they are mistreating him so badly. paul manafort was expos...