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Can you be accessory after the fact to that kind of fist fiddling with our election process, or it would have to be prior or simultaneous? >> i think that if you are conducting an operation wittingly with an agent of a foreign power, you are in for a world of pain, now, mike flynn, if he delivered flynn facts that is falsehoods to the fbi during his interview, he is looking at slammer time. >> thank you malcolm and tim. when we return, let me finish with trump watch. this is hardball where the action is.

Harkening back to water gate. this is a case -- >> not harkening back. the encryptions. i'm going back to vanona, the way we got all the communication between moscow and america during and before the second world war. that kind of stuff. >> sure, but here we have a case where it's not the coverup. it's the crime. we know what the coverup is. it's lying about the crime. what is the crime here? >> what do you think the crime could be? >> collaboration between russian intelligence services and americans to disrupt the united states electoral system and american democracy. >> could that be a prior...