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Plan. he gave them four pillars that he wanted to see in legislation. legislation and principles that the majority of members of the congress have supported in the past. they claim to want to fix daca. the president laid out a pathway and an exact way to do that. they failed to address it. but we're still hopeful that congress will do their jobs, show up and get something done and fix this problem, not kick it down the road and not continue to ignore it. >> when it eventually gets to the supreme court, i assume you're expecting a favorable ruling from the supreme court and then what happens? >...

I like taking the guns first and go through due process next. it doesn't make i have to wait until 21 to get this weapon but can get it at 18. >> i would rather have you come up with a strong, strong bill and really strong on background checks. >> so he said that on wednesday but then a top nra official tweeted this, potus and vice potus support the second amendment and strong due process and don't want gun control. curt, do you think the nra will win the battle or is this time different? >> we've seen this before, with daca and dreamers when president trump held a public meeting and negotiate...

There's no there there. those brought in to talk about this say any attorney would be crazy to allow their client to sit down with somebody that owns a grand jury let alone two grand juries as robert mueller does. sources familiar with the investigation say those outside sources, those outside analysts don't have the level of detail about the case that the president's legal team does and they're going to get it to a point where they feel their client -- this is the president -- would be very low risk of legal jeopardy. if they can't get it down to those narrow parameters, they likely won't do ...

One is -- they're thinking of their re-election, do they want to engage in the gun issue as deeply as it needs to be engaged with in an election your and second they're thinking, you know, the polls are showing there could be a shift in congress. do we want to wait to see what that shift entails? because that might include -- might sort of up our leverage on issues like daca and issues like gun control and other issues before congress. >> shepard: before we go, the elephant in the room, the russia investigation. another of the president's men rick gates, with action last week and it appears it...

Circuit court. at the same time, the white house appealed to the supreme court. the supreme court said we're going to let the ninth circuit do this and probably going to come to the supreme court. the president not happy about that. he wanted to get this adjudicated quickly. when he talked with the governors going off on the ninth circuit, it's about the worst you can get. listen here. >> i mean, it's really sad when every single case filed against us is in the ninth circus, we lose, and we lose and we do final in the supreme court. what does that tell you about our court system? it's a very s...