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What i think is more important to look at challenges and holistic approach, the challenging in 2015. the fixation today is on iraq and syria. we can't forget the problems of sinai. we can't forget the problems of libya. we must not forget the challenges to africa boko haram, shabaab and the problems these franchises, so to speak are presenting to asia. so like minded countries need to come together and bone up to how we can share responsibility, work together and deal with these problems in a holistic approach. >> do you think prime minister netanyahu has genuinely been making an effort to cre...

I think an essential part of how we move forward. i think this is why most of us are looking at it that way. at the end of the day -- >> why? do you think it would be a gift to isis to have americans? >> that could be an element of it because i think sort of the perception they would use occupation as the wrong issue. they will obviously always use the idea of this is a crusade, which it is not. actually this is our fight. at the same time when you look at syria and also iraq it's the integrity and sovereignty of those countries. it has to be syrians dealing with their issues and iraq is deali...