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That's what he says. then you have his lawyers down in georgia attacking a case where, and this is important, he hasn't been charged at all. so that itself is a little unusual. they filed a motion attacking the atlanta d.a.'s basically probe and report up to this point. so that's the first official filing in a way by trump's team in the probe. we've heard from his lawyers. we know they're out there. but this is drawing questions about why they're doing it right now. the new filing is donald trump basically trying to have his lawyers move in that probe. for what exact reasons only they know. bu...

If you're being honest, the process is skewed in the proceeding in favor of the prosecution because defense doesn't get up there and is not cross-examining witnesses but to asha's point, you know, the corroboration that's objective, that's not michael cohen or kellyanne conway or others that appeared but the documents and the theory is the falsification of record, the payments to reimburse michael cohen was booked as legal fees but there were no legal services provided. that's black and white. there's no retainer agreement. if you look at the actual physical documents and this goes to susanne'...

Quotable. >> absolutely. because it is quotable. you just quoted it. it's good fodder for commentary and for political coverage. it's not necessarily something that's going to move the needle when a judge is looking at the facts and the law. >> as you know, charlie, there's a great de la soul song where they say every word i say should be a hip-hop quotable. and there is a panache and a pride writers take in many forums of being able to -- out of the 10,000 words this is the one they know is going to go there. and lawyers do that in and out of court. when you look at this overall in the contex...

Bar. it is roughly around the odds of will there be another commercial break on the news? almost certainly there will be, although every so often you could go a couple hours and go where you don't get one but this is a low bar and likely you can achieve probable cause if you have evidence, because there are people, again, probable cause is a standard just to remind everyone and katie you could break it down for any arrest, in other words, without a grand jury process in a different situation they catch someone, they say, you are holding the tv outside the store, probable cause of arrest. later...